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NOVEMBER 3 VICTOR ECHO MIKE

ham radio Projects and musings from a (Relatively) new operator

FCC Part Ninety-what?

10/15/2016

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     So, I had a couple random thoughts bouncing around in my head that drove me to grab my copy of part 97 (Since my station is my mobile, I keep a binder in the car with manuals, FCC part 97, etc.  we really should all have a copy in our stations)  Maybe this is just the ignorance of a newbie, but there are a couple "lawbreakers" I noticed, that made me question things.  And no, I'm not talking about the flagrant misbehavior of those couple odd-balls who hang around the frequencies we all spin past without stopping - I'm talking about some "minor" offenders - so without further ado here we go with Case Number 1 (Case 2 will be a follow up post sometime in the near future):
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Case Number 1
     I was driving down the highway on the way home from a recent work trip.  So that I don't accidentally incriminate anyone, I won't tell you where I was, other than to say I was actually on an Island.  A Long one.  So anyway, I happened to be monitoring the national FM calling frequency (146.52 MHz for the couple non-ham readers that I have.)  Now, usually I can drive for some pretty good distance without hearing anyone calling on FM Simplex, but on this day I heard, clear as bell "Is anybody around on five-two?"  At first I grabbed my Mic, but I ended up not answering the call because I thought it was odd that I didn't hear a call sign.  Isn't that illegal?
     I looked in my copy of part 97 just to be certain, and like many other things in Ham Radio, I realized the answer is "it depends."  Our practice of identifying ourselves when we call CQ, or call out on a repeater or (like in this case) FM simplex is actually not required.  The real requirement is to identify at the end of each communication, and every 10 minutes during it.  Now, at the end of each communication obviously doesn't mean every time you stop transmitting, otherwise we would all be identifying every single time, right before we let go of the PTT switch. 
     This means that technically, as long that station identified within the next 10 minutes, or at least followed up at some point with something like "Nothing heard, clearing frequency, X0XXX" he would have been legal.  I must admit I didn't time how long it was before I ended up tuning away, but it felt like 10 minutes, and I didn't hear anything else.  Either way, please ID yourself when you call, it's a common courtesy.  After all, I wouldn't come knock on your front door wearing a mask so that you don't know who I am, so why would you knock on my airwaves while wearing yours?

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Will
10/15/2016 23:24:58

Correct, we seem to want to be over compliant to rules that do not exsist. Perhaps its a deep seated desire to be r-e-a-l-l-y official amatuer radio opearators. As an Ofiicial Observer I'd (and so would the FCC) much rather we stick to the every ten and at the end so I know when you are coming and going and at least making an attempt at compliance. My other pet peeve in this arena is "for identification purposes". Just like the name your daddy gave you your call sign is only given for a single reason "namely" "identification purposes" so annoucing it as such is well, really rather dumb. Again, methinks many are trying to be that real official amateur. 73 Will, W8WDR

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Vance -N3VEM
10/16/2016 11:13:47

Thanks for the comment Will! It's good to hear my understanding confirmed by an OO! Maybe with any luck you'll catch my next post on this line of thought (when I get a chance to write it!) so that we can get you input on that one too!

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Chuck link
10/17/2016 15:08:16

I agree, "For identification purposes" is totally redundant and unnecessary. It is also unnecessary to give the other station's call sign. You are only required to give your own. Now having said that, I think there is a difference between what is required by law and what is polite. I generally give my call sign at the beginning if I'm calling CQ, QRZ, or monitoring on simplex or a repeater frequency. A possible exception is when I'm on a simplex frequency with a friend and I'm pretty sure no one is specifically monitoring that frequency, I may call my friend by name and identify a bit later.

What really bothers me is the "repeater police". I think we all need to be tolerant of others, even when they do something we don't quite approve of. I hate when someone jumps in to correct someone else's behavior on a repeater or linked system. I often hear comments like, "You don't have to say for identification purposes", or "You don't need to give the other person's call sign, or "You don't need to identify so often." These things might be annoying, but you don't need to preach to everyone.

One of my pet peeves is, people using outdated phoenics like Adam, Baker, Dog, Easy, Ida, etc. These phoenics became obsolete back in the 1950's. I figure if someone is still using these old phonetics, you are not going to change their habits now. So there's no need to correct them on the air, as I've heard done several times. But it sure makes you wonder how someone could be stuck in the past for so many years.

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